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  majory used herbicides, to get that down.
So any medical treatment, for
me, has to start with cleaning
the terrain to have a reasonably functional system to work with. And then, the next thing is to clean up the infections. And just to give you some numbers that we’ve
got from Zach Bush, there is over 40,000 human pathogenic species of bacteria, like Lyme disease, Strep, Staph stuff. There are over 300,000 parasites, different species of parasites, like giardia, amoebas, and tapeworms, and so over 300,000 of those.
And when we get to mold—and that’s what I was excited to talk
to you about mold or Candida— there’s over five million known species of molds that are affecting our health, over five million.
But for us, the biggie in all this is, okay, how are we going to treat five million molds? You have to have broad-based strategies to treat people. And for us, all this starts when we deal with the infections
to attend to the retroviruses and to get the body’s own controls back over all these other things. And then, we treat Lyme and molds and Candida and Epstein-Barr in milder ways. It doesn’t take a huge onslaught of armamentariums and intravenous therapies and all the things that people do. It becomes a pretty benign process then to get people back on track.
Evan: Good. I think what you’re saying is that, basically—to kind of restate it in a different way, just to confirm—the other pieces of the puzzle, the Wi-Fi, the environment, the diet, things like that that
are in the system, you got to fix those first. If you just go straight to Candida, you’re just going to fail. If you’re trying to throw in monolaurin and Lauricidin and all these other products, many
practitioners have come on to the summit and recommended olive leaf and oregano oil and berberines, which I think were great.
But just like I said, I learned
so much from you and try to implement, as much as I can, learning from you with my clients. If I just went after the Candida,
it seems like it wouldn’t work. I haven’t tried it. But I don’t want to. I don’t want a limited approach. Would you say that to the practitioners that that’s all they do is Candida, Candida, kill, kill, kill, that they’re not going to succeed?
Dr. Klinghardt: Well, the literature is pretty clear that Candida is able to hold in its cell wall a multiple of its own body weight, in terms of lead, cadmium, mercury, and all of that. And there are plenty of papers that show in the body, Candida becomes systemic, which is the candidemia, it’s called, or fungemia that didn’t exist until the 1990s.
So in the 1990s, with the emergence of AIDS and HIV, Candida started to become systemic. And of course, there are different kinds of Candida. There is Candida tropicalis, Candida krusei, Candida glabrata, and so on and so forth. There’s many different sub species.
And in the ‘80s and early ‘90s,
many of them became completely resistant to the diflucan and to some of the medical drugs. And that’s, of the course, when the alternative Candida treatments exploded. But my treatment for Candida has always been, “Well, let’s first take the mercury out of the equation, and let’s take the lead out of the equation.” And then, Candida usually withdraws back in the gut, becomes again a symbiotic part of the flora. Actually, talking to our immune system in ways that are very important and very helpful.
It’s not the enemy.
Candida becomes systemic when the conditions are forcing it to become endemic. I think you’re probably aware. Like I’ve worked with a Swiss fungal researcher.
And we had a mold culture. And exposed one mold culture to the Wi-Fi instrument that was there, one of the early Wi-Fi routers. And the other same mold culture, we split it in half, was protected by one of the things you put over cheese that had a wire mesh over it. And this researcher, when he was alive—unfortunately, he died a few years ago—was able to measure the amount of biotoxins produced per hour by the Candida that was grown there; and also the virulence. That means the toxicity of the biotoxins created.
And the numbers were just shocking. The unprotected mold was producing 600 times more biotoxins per hour than the protected one. Meaning, when you translate that, the reason why Candida and other molds become pathogenic is because when you expose them to Wi-Fi, they suffer as much as we do. And they think that you are attacking them. And therefore, they’re mounting their defenses to shoot back, to let you know this is not okay with them.
And so, you could then either try and kill the Candida, which is one way to reduce the amount, which will never succeed on the long run. But on the short run, you may make some gains. Or you change the environment for the patient and the Candida. In simply turning off the Wi-Fi at night, for example. It’s
a much easier and less expensive treatment for Candida.
And the Candida that was, today, highly virulent, highly pathogenic becomes a peaceful member of your microbiome tomorrow if you change the conditions. And we

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