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  Dr. Jay: She got a lot of heart palpitations, fatigue. So just even exercising, she’d be down and out for the next couple of days, so adrenal fatigue. She was diagnosed with an autoimmune thyroid during pregnancy when the heart palpitations were going on. But they didn’t really have a treatment for that. She had digestive issues, digestive gut issues, heavy metal toxicity. She was exposed to mold. So she had also what’s called MCS or multiple chemical sensitivity.
So my wife’s file, when she was growing up, was quite thick unfortunately from the hospital. And things just continued. And it was almost to the point, Erin, where she felt like she was always being experimented with and poked and prodded. And she didn’t want to be experimented on anymore. So it was just getting by. And then, when my daughter was born, the bottom fell out.
And it was like, “Okay, it’s time to get to the root cause.” But headaches were a massive thing that she dealt with in her past.
Erin: Mmhmm. So she had all these clues. But sometimes you don’t see that until you’re looking backwards. I had that, too, actually. So the headaches are one thing, and then anxiety and digestive issues. And it’s hard to tie them together to
a certain root cause until things get really, really desperate. But if somebody does have persistent headaches or migraines right now, and they’ve tried a lot of different avenues to get better, why should they consider looking at Lyme disease? Is this actually a common symptom of a Lyme infection?
Dr. Jay: Yeah, well, I would say
if you’re asking me about top symptoms that clients come to me for, then I would say a vast majority of people have Lyme disease or diagnosed or suspecting Lyme
that we work with myself and my doctors, I would say fatigue is top of the list with sleep issues. Those go hand in hand. Third on the
list is probably more of like the anxiety, depression, pain. And then headaches, it wouldn’t be in the top, I would say, four or five. It’d be definitely in the top 10.
And so Lyme disease...Giving your listeners a little background on Lyme disease because just hearing that word Lyme can be very like “Oh, my gosh, what? You know, I’m scared. But yet, I don’t understand it.” So it’s like this confusion place. So Lyme disease is a bacteria— Borrelia burgdorferi. And now, they’ve figured out there’s a couple more strains of this bacteria that can cause Lyme disease. But essentially, it’s a bacteria. And it’s a spirochete. So it’s a spiral shape. So it loves joints and tissues. It doesn’t necessarily love the bloodstream, which can make the testing tougher. So the target organ of Lyme is not the bloodstream, which is why testing is not great.
Erin: [inaudible].
Dr. Jay: Yeah, why it’s a toss-up.
But Lyme disease, typically, people get diagnosed with Lyme disease as a last resort. Like, they ruled everything out. “You don’t have lupus. You don’t have RA. You don’t have MS. You don’t have
this, this, this, this. You must have Lyme.” So Lyme comes with over 150 different types of symptoms. Headaches, migraines are one of those. So I would say if somebody has headaches, do you have Lyme? I would definitely not ever make that correlation. If you’re struggling though with--
Erin: With other things, too.
Dr. Jay: Yeah, other symptoms, other health conditions, yeah I think ruling out Lyme disease is always a good thing, rather than just have it
like, “Nothing else showed up. Let’s just say you have Lyme.” How about look into maybe sooner.
Erin: Especially if you’ve done the basics like cleaned up your diet, and opened the detox pathways, and cleaned up your environment, and stuff like that, and you’re not seeing any progress. You have some of these other symptoms like joint pain and stuff like that, then you would want to see somebody about ruling out Lyme. Is that what you were saying?
Dr. Jay: Yeah, well Lyme is...The CDC about five years ago said that 30,000 people a year are affected by it. Then in 2013, they said that 300,000 people in America are affected by Lyme. And there’s experts that say that they’re still 10x off. That it’s even--
Erin: More.
Dr. Jay: Yeah, it’s even more than that. The best way to say it, Erin, is that there’s more people affected by Lyme each year than breast cancer.
Erin: That’s a lot.
Dr. Jay: Yeah. And breast cancer gets a lot of attention. And Lyme doesn’t quite get that attention.
Erin: Yeah. And I think you’re right, too. When somebody hears Lyme, they might not even want to look in to it because it sounds scary. But if they do look—because I was trying to learn more about it before this, not knowing very much at all, when you just look out on the interwebs for Lyme disease, it’s actually really confusing because you’ll hear totally conflicting information. Like a lot of people just think it comes from tick bite. So if they don’t live in an area where they have exposure to ticks, they might think, “No way I could ever have Lyme disease.”

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